Um HEN/CFW para os novos PSP?
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Um HEN/CFW para os novos PSP?
Galera hoje o matusoch me mandou este link da página do wololo, um dos desenvolvedores do hbl. Lá ele comenta sobre um kernel exploit encontrado em um OFW 6.10, esta é a matéria:
A HEN/CFW for new models of PSP soon?
As coyotebean revealed an update for the PSARDumper a few days ago, it appears the number of people in posession of a kernel exploit for the PSP is growing.
We already know that Team Typhoon has one (actually, they’ve had a HEN ready for newest firmwares for a while now)
It seems coyotebean has one too now, and I know from trusted sources that other people have a kernel exploit and are working on “solutions” for the newest PSP firmwares, including the PSP Go. (Don’t hold your breath, I heard nothing about making those public)
There is an implicit agreement among hackers that these exploits should not be disclosed, because kernel exploits have become extremely rare since firmware 6.00 (it is believed a major cleanup of Sony’s code happened at that time to protect the psp go), so it is quite likely that these kernel exploits are actually one single exploit (so revealing it would ruin the efforts of other teams that try to keep it secret). Also, depending on the hacker, kernel exploits are kept secret for personal and/or ethical reasons .
But the more people are aware of an exploit, the more difficult it gets to keep it secret. (yeah, I know, thanks captain obvious…). This is what happened for the Patapon exploit, that was found almost simultaneously by several teams, which led a kid to leak it by fear of being double-crossed.
Hacking brings two kinds of rewards: personal satisfaction of accomplishing a challenging task, and having other people know about it. When we worked on the HBL, we wanted to come up with the most polished product as possible. Our goal was to say : “no guys, it’s not just a Hello World this time, you can already run most homebrews” (of course because of the leak, that’s not exactly how it happened).
For Kernel exploits, I believe some people think pretty much the same way as I do. They want to release something as good as possible, so they’re keeping it secret as long as possible to keep working on it. But if somebody else reveals the same exploit, then your whole work is pretty much screwed. Whatever people tell, your own exploit will be in the shadows of the first guy who revealed the holy grail.
I’m pretty sure that kind of thoughts goes through the minds of hackers who have a kernel exploit. With the number growing, as it becomes more difficult to trust the “others”, one of them will end up revealing their work. Oh, and usually what happens after that is that all the other hackers insult him/her, officially because “that was the scene’s last kernel exploit, now everyone’s screwed” (which is often what they truely think), but also because internally they might be thinking “dude, I was ready before you were, I had the same f###ing exploit, if I had released it one day before you, I would be the one getting the fame and thanks, but I didn’t because I agreed this had to be kept secret, damn I hate your guts”
Good luck to all the guys who have a kernel exploit and fight to keep it secret…but I believe something will happen soon (don’t quote me on this, it’s not like I have a kernel exploit myself ).
Edit: a link to the Wikipedia entry about the prisoner’s dilemma which is exactly what I’m talking about! Thanks atv’
In casual usage, the label “prisoner’s dilemma” may be applied to situations not strictly matching the formal criteria of the classic or iterative games, for instance, those in which two entities could gain important benefits from cooperating or suffer from the failure to do so, but find it merely difficult or expensive, not necessarily impossible, to coordinate their activities to achieve cooperation.
Fonte: wololo.net
Parece que encontraram um exploit mas que não estão querendo divulgar..
A HEN/CFW for new models of PSP soon?
As coyotebean revealed an update for the PSARDumper a few days ago, it appears the number of people in posession of a kernel exploit for the PSP is growing.
We already know that Team Typhoon has one (actually, they’ve had a HEN ready for newest firmwares for a while now)
It seems coyotebean has one too now, and I know from trusted sources that other people have a kernel exploit and are working on “solutions” for the newest PSP firmwares, including the PSP Go. (Don’t hold your breath, I heard nothing about making those public)
There is an implicit agreement among hackers that these exploits should not be disclosed, because kernel exploits have become extremely rare since firmware 6.00 (it is believed a major cleanup of Sony’s code happened at that time to protect the psp go), so it is quite likely that these kernel exploits are actually one single exploit (so revealing it would ruin the efforts of other teams that try to keep it secret). Also, depending on the hacker, kernel exploits are kept secret for personal and/or ethical reasons .
But the more people are aware of an exploit, the more difficult it gets to keep it secret. (yeah, I know, thanks captain obvious…). This is what happened for the Patapon exploit, that was found almost simultaneously by several teams, which led a kid to leak it by fear of being double-crossed.
Hacking brings two kinds of rewards: personal satisfaction of accomplishing a challenging task, and having other people know about it. When we worked on the HBL, we wanted to come up with the most polished product as possible. Our goal was to say : “no guys, it’s not just a Hello World this time, you can already run most homebrews” (of course because of the leak, that’s not exactly how it happened).
For Kernel exploits, I believe some people think pretty much the same way as I do. They want to release something as good as possible, so they’re keeping it secret as long as possible to keep working on it. But if somebody else reveals the same exploit, then your whole work is pretty much screwed. Whatever people tell, your own exploit will be in the shadows of the first guy who revealed the holy grail.
I’m pretty sure that kind of thoughts goes through the minds of hackers who have a kernel exploit. With the number growing, as it becomes more difficult to trust the “others”, one of them will end up revealing their work. Oh, and usually what happens after that is that all the other hackers insult him/her, officially because “that was the scene’s last kernel exploit, now everyone’s screwed” (which is often what they truely think), but also because internally they might be thinking “dude, I was ready before you were, I had the same f###ing exploit, if I had released it one day before you, I would be the one getting the fame and thanks, but I didn’t because I agreed this had to be kept secret, damn I hate your guts”
Good luck to all the guys who have a kernel exploit and fight to keep it secret…but I believe something will happen soon (don’t quote me on this, it’s not like I have a kernel exploit myself ).
Edit: a link to the Wikipedia entry about the prisoner’s dilemma which is exactly what I’m talking about! Thanks atv’
In casual usage, the label “prisoner’s dilemma” may be applied to situations not strictly matching the formal criteria of the classic or iterative games, for instance, those in which two entities could gain important benefits from cooperating or suffer from the failure to do so, but find it merely difficult or expensive, not necessarily impossible, to coordinate their activities to achieve cooperation.
Fonte: wololo.net
Parece que encontraram um exploit mas que não estão querendo divulgar..
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Um HEN/CFW para os novos PSP? :: Comentários
Pelo que li, a reportagem ai em cima não fala nada de qual versão eles estao trabalhando e tambem nao falam de quantas são então pode muito bem ser 6.10 ou tambem a 6.20, ficando mais facil pra todo mundo que seja a 6.20 qua ai só da um up e correr pro abraço.
chicoauf escreveu:Pelo que li, a reportagem ai em cima não fala nada de qual versão eles estao trabalhando e tambem nao falam de quantas são então pode muito bem ser 6.10 ou tambem a 6.20, ficando mais facil pra todo mundo que seja a 6.20 qua ai só da um up e correr pro abraço.
>Lá ele comenta sobre um kernel exploit encontrado em um OFW 6.10
>6.10 HEN/CFW Proof of concept.
Learn2read.
Em um OFW 6.20...
Errrrrrrrr..
NÃO!
rsrsrs
(quando isso funcionar atualizo meu PSP3000!!!)
Errrrrrrrr..
NÃO!
rsrsrs
(quando isso funcionar atualizo meu PSP3000!!!)
=D to feliz por ter deixado meu psp e 6.1
Eu já tinha visto essa notícia em outros sites, só n sabia dessa do exploit ser em OFW 6.1
Espero que algum Team decida lançar um novo CFW, quero muito usar plugins e instalar o Opera...
Eu já tinha visto essa notícia em outros sites, só n sabia dessa do exploit ser em OFW 6.1
Espero que algum Team decida lançar um novo CFW, quero muito usar plugins e instalar o Opera...
ja vi aquele video um ponhado de vez, ele é de 11 de novembro de 2009, mais num sei pode ser que seja realmente um novo hen/cfw, A New Hope...
de qualquer forma meu psp jah ta com a fw 6.20 hahah mas axo q mais cedo ou mais tarde alguem descobre o kernel exploit e acaba dando com a lingua nos dentes e contando... aí pode ser que saia um cfw..
o vídeo é de novembro, mas a parada que anda agitando o meio no momento foi um tal de coyotebeam,q parece ter um exploit tbm (ou o mesmo, já que esses bichinhas ficam fazendo mistério com seus exploits, hehehe). O legal de que mais de um grupo possua exploits é o fato de um ficar com medo de que o outro lance e ganhe o crédito primeiro ehuehue.
Alguém mete a língua nos dentes mais cedo ou mais tarde.
A propósito, galera... viram a pspslimhacks hoje??
Saiu uma paradinha sobre como mudar a fonte do menu do psp, e para isso conseguiram escrever dados em uma área da memória das novas psp's que ainda não tinham conseguido. Tal feito aumenta a esperança de aparecer uma CFW. Leiam a matéria e a discussão que segue nos comments por lá. Vale à pena.
Ah, sim, galera....
Sobre a discussão que li acima, de quem atualizou FW se fudeu... acho que não (ou não necessariamente).
O fato é que se a Sony não tiver descoberto o exploit ainda, provavelmente não o terá corrigido, e este quando sair deverá servir pra 6.1 ou 6.2.
Ou seja... OREMOS!
Na dúvida eu é que não atualizo a minha 6.1 hehehehe
Beijo pras meninas, pedala pros meninos!
Alguém mete a língua nos dentes mais cedo ou mais tarde.
A propósito, galera... viram a pspslimhacks hoje??
Saiu uma paradinha sobre como mudar a fonte do menu do psp, e para isso conseguiram escrever dados em uma área da memória das novas psp's que ainda não tinham conseguido. Tal feito aumenta a esperança de aparecer uma CFW. Leiam a matéria e a discussão que segue nos comments por lá. Vale à pena.
Ah, sim, galera....
Sobre a discussão que li acima, de quem atualizou FW se fudeu... acho que não (ou não necessariamente).
O fato é que se a Sony não tiver descoberto o exploit ainda, provavelmente não o terá corrigido, e este quando sair deverá servir pra 6.1 ou 6.2.
Ou seja... OREMOS!
Na dúvida eu é que não atualizo a minha 6.1 hehehehe
Beijo pras meninas, pedala pros meninos!
O video é antigo mesmo não tem nada com a novo exploit, o HEN é do Davee e da Team Typhoon, disseram que não liberariam para que não acontece-se o mesmo com o chickhen r2 (liberação de ISO) Pirataria. Faz quase um mês que o HBL não é trabalhado como antes...acho que já sabiam faz tempo dessa exploração.
tomara que não seja somente para o GO!!!
edit: http://forum-hbl.do.am/news/kernel_exploit_found/2010-06-09-7
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tomara que não seja somente para o GO!!!
edit: http://forum-hbl.do.am/news/kernel_exploit_found/2010-06-09-7
t+
creio eu q a o go e o 3000 nao possuem diferença significativa...
ou tem???
ou tem???
axo q soh a bateria q nao da pra tirar.. mas como nao vai ser por pandora.. mas sei lah
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